FullCircle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:29 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:15 pm

One time, sure.

Multiple times on the same thread? No thanks.

You should apply to be a mod

I'm sure the mods here would love you

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:26 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:14 pm

dinvy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:40 pm Let's keep it that way

Sorry dude. Didn't see your message. Sure. Bye.

FullCircle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:54 pm We should all be able to criticize Queen and express our disappointment when the quality of her shows is lower than what we're used to.

dinvy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:40 pm Let's keep it that way

dinvy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:29 pm Devotion you're a bit nutty

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:27 pm Somebody wake up DelusionHURTS, the sis is clearly sleep-posting.

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:28 pm Let me know when you join us in reality, sis @DevotionHURTS

Until then, have fun wherever you are

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:25 pm I did not drag her, I was focusing ON YOU, not on her

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:23 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:21 pm

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:14 pm I never said anything about her lipping, are you OK? Confused?

What if she lipped some parts?

I don’t care…? I never mentioned the word lipping

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:22 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:20 pm

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:18 pm

I'm expecting her to sing more and called out the numerous unnecessary outfit changes/dance breaks... so surely having a smaller crew would limit those?

Did you also miss the part where I mentioned LIVE PRE-RECORDED VOCALS and the use of a prompter?

At this point, I don't know why you're quoting me if you're not even reading what I'm writing and instead are using it as an excuse to address criticisms that I haven't made.

What is wrong with that? Many legends in pop music wouldn't have a career if it weren't for those two.

He is saying he would be Ok with that… He is right, you’re not even reading anymore. It’s pointless

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:14 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:12 pm

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:08 pm
I never said that, idc, we all make our bed and lay on it. But you excusing her not knowing the lyrics to her own recently released Spanish songs, the 3-4 she sang, not entirely as they are collabos, is laughable

Erm... She is clearly singing live parts of the song. So... You're wrong.

I never said anything about her lipping, are you OK? Confused?

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:18 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:51 pm

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:48 pm Bitch, please. I usually spend a lot of time here calling out people for incessantly criticising Christina for every breath she takes.

The show was half-assed: she did better for Ladyland, for the LA Pride and her own tours. Period.

I don't care that she's not the only artist doing it; I don't stan artists doing it. As I said, I would be fine even with LIVE PRE-RECORDED VOCALS for some sections.

Acting like having her lipsyncing in front of her own music videos is fine is a whole ass gag, leave this kind of shoddy practice to the Britneys of the world.

I expect better from her, and I don't think her singing more is that much of a stretch?

I've shrugged a lot of things out, but you won't catch me being delusional and fawning at everything she will ever do.

Did you take into consideration that the LA show was local, and that she could easily mobilize a larger crew with her?

There are clear limitations to what she can do overseas with a smaller budget.

Also what is wrong with her not knowing all the lyrics to the Spanish music?

I'm expecting her to sing more and called out the numerous unnecessary outfit changes/dance breaks... so surely having a smaller crew would limit those?

Did you also miss the part where I mentioned LIVE PRE-RECORDED VOCALS and the use of a prompter?

At this point, I don't know why you're quoting me if you're not even reading what I'm writing and instead are using it as an excuse to address criticisms that I haven't made.

Plain Loser wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:12 pm NOBODY DARE POST A SINGLE CRITICISM OF DEAR LEADER HERE IN NORTH CHRISTEA.

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:08 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:06 pm

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:06 pm
And that’s OK?

Does that grant the dragging she's getting now?

I never said that, idc, we all make our bed and lay on it. But you excusing her not knowing the lyrics to her own recently released Spanish songs, the 3-4 she sang, not entirely as they are collabos, is laughable

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:06 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:04 pm

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:58 pm

Ok, no fucking way Maybe because she recorded them herself? She ain’t Britney?

I mean, we know she doesn't remember some lyrics in English...

And that’s OK?

Jimmy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:58 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:51 pm Also what is wrong with her not knowing all the lyrics to the Spanish music?

Ok, no fucking way Maybe because she recorded them herself? She ain’t Britney?

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:48 pm Bitch, please. I usually spend a lot of time here calling out people for incessantly criticising Christina for every breath she takes.

The show was half-assed: she did better for Ladyland, for the LA Pride and her own tours. Period.

I don't care that she's not the only artist doing it; I don't stan artists doing it. As I said, I would be fine even with LIVE PRE-RECORDED VOCALS for some sections.

Acting like having her lipsyncing in front of her own music videos is fine is a whole ass gag, leave this kind of shoddy practice to the Britneys of the world.

I expect better from her, and I don't think her singing more is that much of a stretch?

I've shrugged a lot of things out, but you won't catch me being delusional and fawning at everything she will ever do.

Cruz2318 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:46 am You in danger girl. Words like that is cause for People to say you hate Christina and everything she does. Nobody likes reading logical critiques here….

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:19 am

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:42 am

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:27 am

Bionic and Vanity are both the album vocals, with her interjecting from time to time. I believe the "bitch" in Vanity was 100% live, though.

So what? Christina sings most of her songs live, always. Some of you guys are acting as if she were using tactics to distract the audience from her lack of live singing.

Keyword being "most" because she mostly sings half of songs.

She only performs a handful of complete songs, wastes time with inane dance breaks, and is now lipsyncing to the verse of Bionic and most of Vanity (which are the least demanding vocally). I'd rather she either change the keys, remixed them, or use pre-recorded live vocals rather than lipping very badly/noticeably to them. I would've taken a mashup of the new Spanish tracks over her lipping to them in front of the music videos, too.

The whole thing stuck out even more because the Mallorca show just seemed to be thrown together at the last minute, instead of her properly rehearsing the new Spanish tracks or using a prompter accordingly. I've paid over £100 for an unnamed show in August, and I really hope it will be better than this.

Nottingham wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:27 am

xtinafighter48 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:08 pm Bionic and vanity were live or playback?

Bionic and Vanity are both the album vocals, with her interjecting from time to time. I believe the "bitch" in Vanity was 100% live, though.

Moralistic wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:46 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:20 pm

Moralistic wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:53 pm

Lol true but Madonna in her 40s was smashing! Wasn't her tour the highest grossing during that time? She also doesn't bring people in because of her voice though.... lol

It is nice that Madge was popular back in the 80s and 90s. Congrats. Yay for you.

Bestie Goole is free "2006 Confessions Tour grossing over US $194.7 million, becoming the highest-grossing tour ever for a female artist at that time."

So 15-20 years after she came out she still was sharting on our faves. I'm not even a Madonna fan, just was using her as an example of popstars slaying after their 30s.

Moralistic wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:53 pm

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:39 pm

Data wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:30 pm

Very true. It's the totalitarian line of thinking, unwillingness to grasp any kind of grey area or nuance; like if she's not 100% slaying on someone's opinion, she's absolute shit. But we should have some perspective, even without any comparisons, she IS The Voice of Our Generation and her stage presence is stellar 97% of the time. And if we choose to draw comparisons to her peers to have some perspective:





Let's just say we're super-lucky.

I don’t want to see her dancing much if she will give JT, Ginuwine, Britney or Madonna.

Madonna was just going through the motions when they did the alternating dance in that straight line while Saucy and the dancers had the extra bounce. Granted she’s in her 60’s but why try when you can’t do the dances and that’s what you do.

Lol true but Madonna in her 40s was smashing! Wasn't her tour the highest grossing during that time? She also doesn't bring people in because of her voice though.... lol

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:39 pm

Data wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:30 pm

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:13 pm
And the Britards would still be talking about how much she’s slaying and she’s still that bitch. I’m all for constructive criticism, but I just think people are way too harsh on her considering what they let all the other performers get away with.

Very true. It's the totalitarian line of thinking, unwillingness to grasp any kind of grey area or nuance; like if she's not 100% slaying on someone's opinion, she's absolute shit. But we should have some perspective, even without any comparisons, she IS The Voice of Our Generation and her stage presence is stellar 97% of the time. And if we choose to draw comparisons to her peers to have some perspective:





Let's just say we're super-lucky.

I don’t want to see her dancing much if she will give JT, Ginuwine, Britney or Madonna.

Madonna was just going through the motions when they did the alternating dance in that straight line while Saucy and the dancers had the extra bounce. Granted she’s in her 60’s but why try when you can’t do the dances and that’s what you do.

AintNoOtherMe! wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:44 pm

BYC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:42 pm

Seems like a lot of mess surrounding this event. I won’t even dig through all of this. Why are people complaining about her lipping tho? Everyone complains about her “singing the song like the record”..well that’s one way to get it lmao.

I don’t mind lipping or pre recorded live vocals but like for Sueltame she literally played the video and walked around, not even pretending to lip sync, and just drop some riffs and yeas. I can see why some people find that lazy and beneath her caliber.

dinvy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:25 pm Anom c5 and c#5's were not prerecorded like what are you talking about