Maleficent wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:29 am
Babe theres truly no need to be rude. All I am saying is PRIDE as a whole could be a different experience. It does not cater to the conmunity as a whole. And you justifying things by saying but they are exposed to other things on other platforms is irrelevant.

What about Pride being for both? For families and children and age-appropriate sex education. But at the same time in different closed area, some +18 activities. Or at the same place, but different time?

I get that it is always a negotiation and push-and-pull but it is possible to have event that is somewhat for both.

Your point about community as a whole; yeah, if adults holding other adults dressed as dog in a leash is not your thing & that happens at Pride, then yes, I do think it's not for everyone. As I said in my earlier post, sexual minorities are many kinds of people and sexuality IS different from sex act. Some people naturally less interested in sex act but they still have sexuality.

dinvy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:58 pm uncensored for your pleasure @Data ! @musicfan !

YAS, am gonna save this!

Tellusora wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:23 pm

Xxxpose wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:59 pm I mean us people are really affraid of a dildo?
Dont they have bigger issues overthere?

Americans are more afraid of dildos than guns.

Word.

And can we talk about the cowardice & regression of a "dick" STILL being censored?

2022

2003

Kinn Leo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:01 am
Girl chill a lot. I've been surrounded by women my WHOLE life and i love them. And the truth is that to every rule there's an exception, i'm not saying every woman is the same. I said MOST of them and i stand my point from my personal experience and from most people i know who share the same view, women are the ones who pit against each other with no help at all.

The contradiction.

Most are catty and judgmental towards other women. And that aint misogyny, it is the truth and it aint my problem if you get offended. I was adressing the fact that most of the hate comments come from women and that's the way it is.

Correlation /= causation.

You're spouting fallacies left and right. You can't even verify that those comments come from actual people instead of bots.

Kinn Leo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:59 pm

Bad_vocal_technique wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:06 pm They are now attacking the Instagram post.

I am so very impressed by this. I mean i've read comments like: "pedophile", "sick lady", "disgusting" etc etc even bible versicles saying she'll burn in hell. And most comments come from women.

Like for real? This goes to show how most women are such hypocrites. Talking about female empowerment and they're the first the put themselves down.

This was a GAY PRIDE concert at 10 pm. All heterosexual people needs to understand that their kids are THEIR responsability and no one elses.

Xtina rocked the shit out of that concert and i hope she continues to be that bitch. Either way she always gets the hate, let them hate while she's killing it

!	Message from: Data
	Misogyny is a bannable offense on this forum.

Some of you are very quick to blame womanhood whenever you get the chance. Women are half of the population. You will not paint all or most of us with the same brush with these reactionary, anti-feminist, right-wing delulus. These are conservative Karens, "pick me" girls with internalized misogyny and tradwives, they are a whole another segment.

wanted wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 11:19 pm I reported a bunch of the Insta posts about grooming and hell and whatever. It definitely seems like a concerted attack from right-wingers and some spam bots.

I don't think it'll amount to much, but these people are legitimately insane and we have to be careful.

This is what you all should do. These are right-wing nuts, report them.

DO NOT share/repost/reply their delusions anywhere.

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:32 pm

Chintheory wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:25 pm Christina has ALWAYS had BDE.

For whatever reason, it seems [Eminem] has such animosity towards me. I don't know why," Aguilera told MTV News. "I don't know what I said to really disturb him, but whatever I said I'd say again."

https://www.mtv.com/news/1424805/nsync- ... nem-track/

X gave "fuck M&M!" teas, we stan!

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:27 pm

Did she say that she's influenced by X prior to this? I think she did, but I can't find the receipts. :/

Cute homage to DirrtyTine!

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:04 pm Nothing, if it’s a kink festival. Pride isn’t, unless I didn’t get the memo.

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:07 pm Why can’t gay pride have elements of a kink festival? What should gay pride be in your opinion? Kink is very much a part of gay culture, why do you want to separate it?

I see both of your point of view.

On one hand, LGBTQ+ umbrella contains multitude of sexual- and gender identities. There are lesbian and bisexual women. There are asexuals, for instance, lot of them who just can't see the appeal of sex acts even in private, let alone public, or view it in an academic way or something completely different. There's demisexuals (and I don't mean Themi Lovato ) who don't even connect sexual act with nudity, some think they are separate things. So is it fair or equal to cater Pride predominantly to people who are into kink, have strong sexual drive and/or are attracted to men?

It's a necessary discussion to have.

However.. I do get the almost anti-establishment, sex act vibe and kink too. Some people are much more sexual. And it has been repressed in the past and still is in many parts of the world.

I don't think there even is only one correct answer to this. Many parents want to show Pride to their children and give them that experience, I think that's great as well and there's room for under-18 events as well.

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm Yeah, im not talking about the performance - the comment initially made was about kids seeing dildos and naked people all day.

Fair enough. As I said earlier; oversexualization and simulating sex acts and if Pride is veering towards kink festival, that's one thing.

Christina's performance is completely another topic and she's justified to perform whichever the way she pleases.

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm I'm not gay so my opinion might not mean anything but I don't get why gay pride have to be always associated with over the top sexual things like this. Christina as always respected that community and don't pander to stereotypes like other artist do. So seeing her do something like this was unnecessarily, she can be over the top expressing herself but this was to much.

Plus she's a mom now, sorry but when you're a mom you got to make better decision.

But that's the irony of your statement: YOU think it's too much. She doesn't. Thus she doesn't "pander to stereotypes", this is who she is. As Christina so wisely put in that Fuse interview in 2010: "I don't think artists are trying to provoke, they just do".

Christina as an artist does something that by her standards is most likely mild (wears bedazzled strap-on dildo onstage) and sexually repressed people get provoked. Same phenomenon happened with Dirrty.

dinvy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:11 pm the pearl clutchers are kim petras trying to get a facial from daddy xtina but she turned away and wasted it on the floor. now they mad

Agreed.

The fact that IG, Facebook or any of these social media giants censors a woman wearing a strap-on, female nipples (breast cancer patients and reduction mammoplasty included) and women's bodies in general is misogyny and patriarchy.

Jimmy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:06 pm The dildo is hilarious and campy, love it.

And wtf at kids at a pride concert at night in LA

IKR?

I love this bitch even more rn!

Christina Aguilera is by her own words a very sexual person & sex-positive person. She constantly reflects that in her art and has addressed it over the years many, many, many times.

If anything, pushing sexual boundaries/taboos more often would align with her personality completely.

Areliugaanitsirhc wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:50 am The dildo was a bitch much. As long as kids weren't present, it's all good

Wasn't the gig at 10 PM? Why or how would any children be present?

Regardless, that's the organizers problem, not Christina's.

Maleficent wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:53 am i think the same tbh. I hate the fact that these events need to be so oversexualized.

Otherwise, she looked just fantastic and put on a great show.

Thanks to gay men.

Flame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:42 am "I get a lot of requests for this song"....proceeds to forget the lyrics

It's the intent that counts!