NewAgenda wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:29 pm

Xeena wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:25 pm They act like it was only children in the audience and xtina pulled out a dildo

Where are all the parents and children that were so outraged because all I see are people who weren’t there complaining?

Maleficent wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:29 am

NewAgenda wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:37 am

Maleficent wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:52 pm

It was not a kids show however I do think kids would have been welcome to watch - no one would have turned them away.

Every gay is so loud in saying Pride is for kids too, kids are welcome, bring your children etc - which is good. But when something like this is on, then suddenly no kids are present.

I get the right wing nutjobs are horrendous people, but there is hipocrisy on both sides. We cannot have it both ways - its either kids are welcome or they are not. Its either PRIDE as a whole, the series of events are just for adults or not. So yeah, I am all about freedom of expression, but we certainly need to realise that PRIDE is alienating not only the people who just cannot familiarize themselves with all this extravaganza, but also people in the community. I am an avid supporter of PRIDE changing in its foundation.

I think you’re overthinking this. Pride has always been unapologetic and at least you know what you’re getting. Why are people so worried about a non-televised performance when kids are exposed to a lot more than that on Netflix, cable TV, music videos and movies during the daytime for programming for all ages? Restrictions are no longer as strict as they were when I was a child, so don’t try to play this hypocrisy crap when kids have seen much worse probably sitting with their parents and their parents not thinking twice that the violence was inappropriate for a child. It’s funny how people like you and the Karen’s and Ken’s are quick to say something is too sexual while not doing the same for violence and shows they watch with their children.

Babe theres truly no need to be rude. All I am saying is PRIDE as a whole could be a different experience. It does not cater to the conmunity as a whole. And you justifying things by saying but they are exposed to other things on other platforms is irrelevant.

AgentX wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:58 pm

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm I'm not gay so my opinion might not mean anything…

Correct

Data wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:12 pm

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:04 pm Nothing, if it’s a kink festival. Pride isn’t, unless I didn’t get the memo.

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:07 pm Why can’t gay pride have elements of a kink festival? What should gay pride be in your opinion? Kink is very much a part of gay culture, why do you want to separate it?

I see both of your point of view.

On one hand, LGBTQ+ umbrella contains multitude of sexual- and gender identities. There are lesbian and bisexual women. There are asexuals, for instance, lot of them who just can't see the appeal of sex acts even in private, let alone public, or view it in an academic way or something completely different. There's demisexuals (and I don't mean Themi Lovato ) who don't even connect sexual act with nudity, some think they are separate things. So is it fair or equal to cater Pride predominantly to people who are into kink, have strong sexual drive and/or are attracted to men?

It's a necessary discussion to have.

However.. I do get the almost anti-establishment, sex act vibe and kink too. Some people are much more sexual. And it has been repressed in the past and still is in many parts of the world.

I don't think there even is only one correct answer to this. Many parents want to show Pride to their children and give them that experience, I think that's great as well and there's room for under-18 events as well.

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:13 pm

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:07 pm

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:04 pm

Nothing, if it’s a kink festival. Pride isn’t, unless I didn’t get the memo.

Why can’t gay pride have elements of a kink festival? What should gay pride be in your opinion? Kink is very much a part of gay culture, why do you want to separate it?

People can do whatever they want at indoor/closed events. My issue is when it’s public and paraded around for all to see - children being my concern which is why this topic even started (someone mentioned children seeing inappropriate stuff at street parades etc).

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:15 pm

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:03 pm

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:55 pm


You should’ve stopped at Im not gay.

Your post is so full of judgment. Giving me bachelorette at a gay bar vibe.

If you’re not gay, maybe ask those who are why gay pride is the way it is. Learn about the history of it and how it has evolved.

Also, if you think she’s pandering to her audience, you might not really know Xtina. And what does being a mom have to do with a gay pride performance?! Did it affect the way her children are being raised? Jesus.

@musicfan the fact that you reacted with a rolling eye emoji rather than LEARN tells me everything I need to know. Goodbye Kyle! Let me know when you’re willing to listen to understand someone else’s perspective.

In my post I gave christina credit for not pandering to gay men like other artist do, the dildo is something gaga and Miley would, christina as always treated that community like human beings and not just a yas queen or gay best friend prop. You're gay you know the negative things people think of these type pride events.

They should be about pride, respect and equal rights not sex orgies and kinks!

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:04 pm

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:02 pm

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:00 pm

I’m gay and some of the stuff that happens at pride events turns me right off. It’s ridiculous in some cases. As I said before they’re being turned into kink festivals amongst other things

Can I ask what you have against a kink festival?

Nothing, if it’s a kink festival. Pride isn’t, unless I didn’t get the memo.

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:55 pm

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm I'm not gay so my opinion might not mean anything but I don't get why gay pride have to be always associated with over the top sexual things like this. Christina as always respected that community and don't pander to stereotypes like other artist do. So seeing her do something like this was unnecessarily, she can be over the top expressing herself but this was to much.

Plus she's a mom now, sorry but when you're a mom you got to make better decision.

You should’ve stopped at Im not gay.

Your post is so full of judgment. Giving me bachelorette at a gay bar vibe.

If you’re not gay, maybe ask those who are why gay pride is the way it is. Learn about the history of it and how it has evolved.

Also, if you think she’s pandering to her audience, you might not really know Xtina. And what does being a mom have to do with a gay pride performance?! Did it affect the way her children are being raised? Jesus.

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:00 pm

Cruz808 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:55 pm

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm I'm not gay so my opinion might not mean anything but I don't get why gay pride have to be always associated with over the top sexual things like this. Christina as always respected that community and don't pander to stereotypes like other artist do. So seeing her do something like this was unnecessarily, she can be over the top expressing herself but this was to much.

Plus she's a mom now, sorry but when you're a mom you got to make better decision.

You should’ve stopped at Im not gay.

Your post is so full of judgment. Giving me bachelorette at a gay bar vibe.

If you’re not gay, maybe ask those who are why gay pride is the way it is. Learn about the history of it and how it has evolved.

Also, if you think she’s pandering to her audience, you might not really know Xtina. And what does being a mom have to do with a gay pride performance?! Did it affect the way her children are being raised? Jesus.

I’m gay and some of the stuff that happens at pride events turns me right off. It’s ridiculous in some cases. As I said before they’re being turned into kink festivals amongst other things

musicfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm I'm not gay so my opinion might not mean anything but I don't get why gay pride have to be always associated with over the top sexual things like this. Christina as always respected that community and don't pander to stereotypes like other artist do. So seeing her do something like this was unnecessarily, she can be over the top expressing herself but this was to much.

Plus she's a mom now, sorry but when you're a mom you got to make better decision.

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:47 pm

Nottingham wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:45 pm

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:37 pm

Which is why kids should be nowhere near “pride” which seems to be a kink festival these days from what I see. It’s so wrong.

Sis, it was after 10pm on a stage... she's not doing this at 3pm on a float on the main street.

Yeah, im not talking about the performance - the comment initially made was about kids seeing dildos and naked people all day.

Bionica wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:37 pm

XisGonGiveIt2U wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:11 pm

Jimmy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:06 pm The dildo is hilarious and campy, love it.

And wtf at kids at a pride concert at night in LA

Exactly. It’s after 10 pm. If the parents are ok with bringing their children to a late show, I don’t see why ppl are so worried about a child seeing a fucking dildo. I’m sure they saw dildos all day long at Pride, and asses, and boobs, and tons of things!

Which is why kids should be nowhere near “pride” which seems to be a kink festival these days from what I see. It’s so wrong.

H2o wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:14 pm

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