i guess we canlove&music wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:12 pmCan we report it???UnbreakableF4X wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:45 pm An unofficial music video is taking away streams.frkm the official video of Reflection..in less than 2 days, the unofficial video received almost 200k views.
wow this is a great update... nice to see Reflection 2020 rebound a bit AND LBT hit a new daily Spotify streams peak!AS wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:56 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)
Week 1 - 1,169,387
day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)
09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True
Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)
day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384) *New peak in streams!
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero
Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)
day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
that's great, just saw it!
She should take this into consideration, she could have AC hits, and have a profitable career.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 am "Loyal Brave True" debuts at #24 in the "Adult Contemporary" chart.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary
This is nice. I hope she keeps releasing great AC friendly material.
DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:41 amShe should take this into consideration, she could have AC hits, and have a profitable career.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 am "Loyal Brave True" debuts at #24 in the "Adult Contemporary" chart.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary
Profit is the one area where Tine has no issues. It's just that the profit generally doesn't come from new music. 
I was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)
Week 1 - 1,169,387
day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)
09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True
Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)
day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero
Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)
day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams
If she does find a new niche, she can go back to being profitable again, and she can do collabs to do more modern music.BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:12 pmDevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:41 amShe should take this into consideration, she could have AC hits, and have a profitable career.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 am "Loyal Brave True" debuts at #24 in the "Adult Contemporary" chart.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary
Yeah I feel LBT is much easier on the ear for casual listeners and it's like the movies theme song whereas Reflection 2020 was more for the fans and nostalgia.BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pmI was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)
Week 1 - 1,169,387
day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)
09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True
Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)
day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero
Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)
day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams
LBT, on the other hand, seems like it's organically gaining interest. Which, frankly, egg on my face, because I never thought it made sense as a standalone piece without the context of the movie.
She should consider the dual single strategy again. Technically speaking, she's reaching the same market... But for two different reasons, like you just said: (1) freshness, and (2) nostalgia.MaCK. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:35 pmYeah I feel LBT is much easier on the ear for casual listeners and it's like the movies theme song whereas Reflection 2020 was more for the fans and nostalgia.BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pmI was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)
Week 1 - 1,169,387
day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)
09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True
Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)
day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero
Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)
day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams
LBT, on the other hand, seems like it's organically gaining interest. Which, frankly, egg on my face, because I never thought it made sense as a standalone piece without the context of the movie.
A performance with an orchestra and sang live with the big note could help Reflection surge again. Its LBT that I'm not sure how they could capitalize again beyond it playing in the pre- end credit sequence. (Which was smart).
Yeah, agree that a big performance could make Reflection a phenomenon. I just don't know how Tine pulls that off during rona. Her facemask wouldn't stand a chance against those VOCALS.MaCK. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:35 pmYeah I feel LBT is much easier on the ear for casual listeners and it's like the movies theme song whereas Reflection 2020 was more for the fans and nostalgia.BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pmI was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)
Week 1 - 1,169,387
day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)
09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True
Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)
day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________
SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero
Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)
day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams
LBT, on the other hand, seems like it's organically gaining interest. Which, frankly, egg on my face, because I never thought it made sense as a standalone piece without the context of the movie.
A performance with an orchestra and sang live with the big note could help Reflection surge again. Its LBT that I'm not sure how they could capitalize again beyond it playing in the pre- end credit sequence. (Which was smart).
What does it imply? Sorry, I'm not big on radio.Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:19 pmOh my God! Straight to the B list! That's going to do wonders for the song here and hopefully lead to more AC stations picking it.
It means that BBC Radio 2, the biggest AC station in the UK will include LBT on its playlist on moderate rotation. This starts Saturday.DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:10 pmWhat does it imply? Sorry, I'm not big on radio.Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:19 pmOh my God! Straight to the B list! That's going to do wonders for the song here and hopefully lead to more AC stations picking it.
