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Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:30 am 14.6M

The views have slowed down significantly in the last 24 hours.

Unfortunately, with zero promo, most have lost interest on the song...

It is so f*cking good... It deserved better.

I hope the Grammys are not too late.

There's nothing we could do at this point. It's not RCA anymore. The girls have huge numbers on any platform but still not many people know about this song. Who is the one to blame here?

I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:47 am I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:37 am There's nothing we could do at this point. It's not RCA anymore. The girls have huge numbers on any platform but still not many people know about this song. Who is the one to blame here?

It is really weird indeed...

Maybe she divided the money for promo for all the different releases we are getting...

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:54 am

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:47 am I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

That was 20 years ago when she was a brand new, huge pop star! I mean really…If Shania Twain released an album today I would not expect it to be huge just because she was the biggest country artist 20 years ago.

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:00 am

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:54 am

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:47 am I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

That was 20 years ago when she was a brand new, huge pop star! I mean really…If Shania Twain released an album today I would not expect it to be huge just because she was the biggest country artist 20 years ago.

That's a pretty good comparison actually using someone who was a legend in their respective genre and then disappeared for 15-20 years, you can look to her album release in 2017 to get an idea.
3 back to back diamond albums in the USA and Canada (some of them going double diamond) and then she goes only Platinum in Canada and not even gold in the USA. I know sales dried up but she basically just waited too long to expect anyone to truly anticipate a comeback.

We may be witnessing something similar here and at this point I'm over it. The only reason I want her stuff to be successful is so she doesn't abandon it like she literally does to every flop album. If she's happy to go through with all her Spanish releases despite no widespread acknowledgement I have no issues there. Unfortunately Christina is a creature of habit and I don't think she goes through with her 3 EP plan if this first one fails.

I guess the budget was largely used for having three featured artists in PMM. They are all popular in the Latin market. I lost count on how many playlists Nicki Nicole is. I think the mistake they have made is that their parts are very small so their fans don't feel like supporting a song where their favourite artist sings for a few seconds. There should have been only one featured artist but with a much bigger part.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am I guess the budget was largely used for having three featured artists in PMM. They are all popular in the Latin market. I lost count on how many playlists Nicki Nicole is. I think the mistake they have made is that their parts are very small so their fans don't feel like supporting a song where their favourite artist sings for a few seconds. There should have been only one featured artist but with a much bigger part.

The mistake was in the music video, they all sing in the second chorus but form the video it looks like it’s just X singing it. They needed more scenes

We will see if the Latin Grammy's will boost the song, hopefully yes.

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:54 am

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:47 am I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

Stripped was big too and...

Fighter wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:18 am

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:54 am

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:47 am I don’t understand why anyone thought Christina would be commercially successful by releasing Spanish music? She cant even do that with English music and that’s a much bigger market. Y’all need to just enjoy the music and visuals and shut the hell up about numbers. That ship sailed years ago.

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

Stripped was big too and...

We're talking about spanish music

Franzjoseph wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:58 am

Agugaga wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:00 am

pato wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:54 am

You say this because you have NO IDEA how huge was Mi Reflejo in latin america. I thought she could slay this time again

That was 20 years ago when she was a brand new, huge pop star! I mean really…If Shania Twain released an album today I would not expect it to be huge just because she was the biggest country artist 20 years ago.

That's a pretty good comparison actually using someone who was a legend in their respective genre and then disappeared for 15-20 years, you can look to her album release in 2017 to get an idea.
3 back to back diamond albums in the USA and Canada (some of them going double diamond) and then she goes only Platinum in Canada and not even gold in the USA. I know sales dried up but she basically just waited too long to expect anyone to truly anticipate a comeback.

We may be witnessing something similar here and at this point I'm over it. The only reason I want her stuff to be successful is so she doesn't abandon it like she literally does to every flop album. If she's happy to go through with all her Spanish releases despite no widespread acknowledgement I have no issues there. Unfortunately Christina is a creature of habit and I don't think she goes through with her 3 EP plan if this first one fails.

xtoni wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:55 am

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am I guess the budget was largely used for having three featured artists in PMM. They are all popular in the Latin market. I lost count on how many playlists Nicki Nicole is. I think the mistake they have made is that their parts are very small so their fans don't feel like supporting a song where their favourite artist sings for a few seconds. There should have been only one featured artist but with a much bigger part.

The mistake was in the music video, they all sing in the second chorus but form the video it looks like it’s just X singing it. They needed more scenes

To be fair, they can't compete with Christina's voice.

Screaming @ all the theories

DevotionHURTS wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:23 am

xtoni wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:55 am

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am I guess the budget was largely used for having three featured artists in PMM. They are all popular in the Latin market. I lost count on how many playlists Nicki Nicole is. I think the mistake they have made is that their parts are very small so their fans don't feel like supporting a song where their favourite artist sings for a few seconds. There should have been only one featured artist but with a much bigger part.

The mistake was in the music video, they all sing in the second chorus but form the video it looks like it’s just X singing it. They needed more scenes

To be fair, they can't compete with Christina's voice.

It shouldn't be about competing though. They should have all harmonised towards the end of the song rather than Xtina belting. Besides, we know radio doesn't like the belting.

WOW I just stepped into the darkest conners of this fandom.

What Christina has over all those artists mentioned is an indelible talent that doesn't age. That is where the hope of the big comeback stems from for Christina for me, the talent that is just as good if not better than it ever was!

Stop being so pessimistic some of you.

Don't label her a flop, give it time. She is passionate and trying with the promo and engagement with fans this time around. QuEn deserves this!

Let's just support her quality music and see the Latin GRAMMY performance.

xtoni wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:55 am

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:42 am I guess the budget was largely used for having three featured artists in PMM. They are all popular in the Latin market. I lost count on how many playlists Nicki Nicole is. I think the mistake they have made is that their parts are very small so their fans don't feel like supporting a song where their favourite artist sings for a few seconds. There should have been only one featured artist but with a much bigger part.

The mistake was in the music video, they all sing in the second chorus but form the video it looks like it’s just X singing it. They needed more scenes

I actually enjoy more the behind the scenes video than the official one.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:51 am

DevotionHURTS wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:23 am

xtoni wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:55 am

The mistake was in the music video, they all sing in the second chorus but form the video it looks like it’s just X singing it. They needed more scenes

To be fair, they can't compete with Christina's voice.

It shouldn't be about competing though. They should have all harmonised towards the end of the song rather than Xtina belting. Besides, we know radio doesn't like the belting.

I love Xtina's belting notes.

Data wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:02 am Stop being so pessimistic some of you.

Don't label her a flop, give it time. She is passionate and trying with the promo and engagement with fans this time around. QuEn deserves this!

Let's just support her quality music and see the Latin GRAMMY performance.

I don't think it is a flop. I'm just disappointed at the lack of promo.

I still cannot believe it hasn't been sent to radios.

DevotionHURTS wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:51 pm

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:51 am

DevotionHURTS wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:23 am

To be fair, they can't compete with Christina's voice.

It shouldn't be about competing though. They should have all harmonised towards the end of the song rather than Xtina belting. Besides, we know radio doesn't like the belting.

I love Xtina's belting notes.

I wish you worked in a major radio station.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:55 pm

DevotionHURTS wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:51 pm

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:51 am

It shouldn't be about competing though. They should have all harmonised towards the end of the song rather than Xtina belting. Besides, we know radio doesn't like the belting.

I love Xtina's belting notes.

I wish you worked in a major radio station.

I don't listen to radio. I know some people who do, but they are snobs who only play random, weird music.

Y’all need to relax. The song & video numbers are on par with some of the it girls right now like Nathy and Nicky’s releases.

Well, Genio Atrapado is better than PMM and PMADT is better that Somos Nasdsa

I still love Pa Mis Muchachas and I will enjoy the era no matter what!

Stream PMM!

VenusAsABoy wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:01 pm I still love Pa Mis Muchachas and I will enjoy the era no matter what!

Stream PMM!

This. It is my favourite 1st single since ANOM.

Almost 15M. Keep watching it.