Aww that’s so sad to hear, but not surprising tbh. I always felt like she put off a follow-up to Lotus for so long because she was afraid of flopping again. Same thing with touring. The Voice came with a high salary and primetime exposure with relatively little effort, so it was easy for that to become her main gig for a while. I can see why she’s so grateful for the support at her live shows in recent years.
I truly think she just needed a better team surrounding her and giving honest, constructive feedback. Hollywood Bowl was the perfect venue to highlight her status as a living icon. She should be cementing her legacy as a touring force and making more ambitious music than ever before, not chasing chart success to stay “relevant”.
This. She should stay left field, avant-gard, as she has always been.
It is part of her brand by now.
Y'all are delusional. She came back with two left-field releases in two completely different genres and both got ignored. She needs a song that sticks with the general public that can gain her some traction, one that could maybe gain some new fans and remind some old fans.
She can maybe still get a hit song and I’d love more bangers from her, but I don’t think that should be her primary driver or else her art will suffer; just look at her peers like Jennifer Lopez who desperately clings to trends and whose record sales have continued to decline nonetheless.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:42 am
by Franzjoseph
dinvy wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:25 pm
@Franzjoseph half of it, I guess?! Loved it anyways, twice too!
Better than the first night that is for sure on Maria!
Only time I think she ever did the falsetto bit in the bridge plus of course phrased C#5's!
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:45 am
by Sapphire
Is he one of the songwriters/producers for X's new album?
I mean he could get access to the backstage
Or just a crew?
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:58 am
by KevinKardashian
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:13 am
by Postertina
So since we are talking rumors, I just heard from someone who's usually reliable that the crews were there filming backstage and shots of the concert for a documentary (possibly Youtube Originals) that's supposed to be released along the Spanish Album. They said they couldn't confirm this themselves so they aren't completely sure of the information, but we do know some of the recording sessions of the album were filmed so it sounds possible.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:26 am
by FullCircle
Postertina wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:13 am
So since we are talking roumors, I just heard from someone who's usually reliable that the crews were there filming backstage and shots of the concert for a documentary (possibly Youtube Originals) that's supposed to be released along the Spanish Album. They said they couldn't confirm this themselves so they aren't completely sure of the information, but we do know some of the recording sessions of the album were filmed so it sounds possible.
I kind of started that rumor and I'm usually not reliable
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Postertina wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:13 am
So since we are talking roumors, I just heard from someone who's usually reliable that the crews were there filming backstage and shots of the concert for a documentary (possibly Youtube Originals) that's supposed to be released along the Spanish Album. They said they couldn't confirm this themselves so they aren't completely sure of the information, but we do know some of the recording sessions of the album were filmed so it sounds possible.
I kind of started that rumor and I'm usually not reliable
I guess we all assumed something was going on since the thing was obviously being filmed for ~ something ~ I suppose some of us hoped for a release of the concert itself, which doesn't seem very likely since apparently they were just doing some shots. They said Youtube Originals with certainty, they just couldn't confirm if that was indeed the case.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:37 am
by Giftence
I might be not right, but as far as I remember her team was always shooting something behind the scenes and we always got the sense she would release something.
On each big concert (Malaysia, Morocco, New Orleans, Baku etc) including her tour there were professional cameras but the videos never saw the light.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
This. She should stay left field, avant-gard, as she has always been.
It is part of her brand by now.
Y'all are delusional. She came back with two left-field releases in two completely different genres and both got ignored. She needs a song that sticks with the general public that can gain her some traction, one that could maybe gain some new fans and remind some old fans.
Lol @ Lotus or Liberation being left field...
What part of Your Body was avant-gard? Fall in line was a classic pop ballad.
I obviously meant Accelerate and Fall in Line. In what world is Fall in Line a classic pop ballad?
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:57 am
by Postertina
Giftence wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:37 am
I might be not right, but as far as I remember her team was always shooting something behind the scenes and we always got the sense she would release something.
On each big concert (Malaysia, Morocco, New Orleans, Baku etc) including her tour there were professional cameras but the videos never saw the light.
Yes, she usually records her stuff for her personal archive, I guess? This isn't the case here according to whoever told me that, although they weren't sure/couldn't confirm first hand. Only reason I mentioned it is because they have a history of being right with the stuff they sent me in the past and for this they gave me the OK to mention it. I asked someonelse to check if they heard something similiar, but they haven't returned to me yet...
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
This. She should stay left field, avant-gard, as she has always been.
It is part of her brand by now.
Y'all are delusional. She came back with two left-field releases in two completely different genres and both got ignored. She needs a song that sticks with the general public that can gain her some traction, one that could maybe gain some new fans and remind some old fans.
She can maybe still get a hit song and I’d love more bangers from her, but I don’t think that should be her primary driver or else her art will suffer; just look at her peers like Jennifer Lopez who desperately clings to trends and whose record sales have continued to decline nonetheless.
That's J.Lo. There's also Mariah and Toni Braxton who both had a mega hit that semi revived their musical relevance. She can't keep turning out Accelerate's and Fall in Line's as long as she's signed to a major label.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Y'all are delusional. She came back with two left-field releases in two completely different genres and both got ignored. She needs a song that sticks with the general public that can gain her some traction, one that could maybe gain some new fans and remind some old fans.
Lol @ Lotus or Liberation being left field...
What part of Your Body was avant-gard? Fall in line was a classic pop ballad.
I obviously meant Accelerate and Fall in Line. In what world is Fall in Line a classic pop ballad?
Fall in line is a classic female duet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Grammy's agree. Weren't they nominated in pop collaboration?
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
What part of Your Body was avant-gard? Fall in line was a classic pop ballad.
I obviously meant Accelerate and Fall in Line. In what world is Fall in Line a classic pop ballad?
Fall in line is a classic female duet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Grammy's agree. Weren't they nominated in pop collaboration?
They're nominated in the pop collaboration category because Christina and Demi are pop singers and it's a collaboration. The song itself is not a classic pop ballad, nor does it sound like anything you'd hear on the radio these days.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:32 am
by Anitta
Chintheory wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:37 am
Ugh, one of my closest friends was finally able to reveal that she worked on the show, helped cast the dancers, and an artist she manages helped with the costume design. She said X is such a pro and super sweet, but it breaks my heart to say this, my friend revealed that X mentioned a few times that she’s been feeling like she’s “Washed up.”
Which sounds absurd to me because she’s an icon. But she’s also human. Just made me sad to hear that.
If she indeed said this, I wouldn't take it as a negative thing. It would mean that she's aware that she hasn't made as much effort as she used to do. Hopefully this will drive her for her next albums.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
I obviously meant Accelerate and Fall in Line. In what world is Fall in Line a classic pop ballad?
Fall in line is a classic female duet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Grammy's agree. Weren't they nominated in pop collaboration?
They're nominated in the pop collaboration category because Christina and Demi are pop singers and it's a collaboration. The song itself is not a classic pop ballad, nor does it sound like anything you'd hear on the radio these days.
What you say is partly true. Yes, part of the beats are modern. But the song itself, the lyrics, is very classic female pop duet.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:59 am
by Anitta
Postertina wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:13 am
So since we are talking rumors, I just heard from someone who's usually reliable that the crews were there filming backstage and shots of the concert for a documentary (possibly Youtube Originals) that's supposed to be released along the Spanish Album. They said they couldn't confirm this themselves so they aren't completely sure of the information, but we do know some of the recording sessions of the album were filmed so it sounds possible.
Not getting my hopes up but I'll be so happy if this is true.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Y'all are delusional. She came back with two left-field releases in two completely different genres and both got ignored. She needs a song that sticks with the general public that can gain her some traction, one that could maybe gain some new fans and remind some old fans.
Lol @ Lotus or Liberation being left field...
What part of Your Body was avant-gard? Fall in line was a classic pop ballad.
They might be referring to “Accelerate”. As much as I love that song, it’s not “hit” material, although it’s a wonderful reminder that Christina isn’t afraid to continue pushing boundaries for herself.
When I said ambitious, I just meant a bold direction, not necessarily avant-garde. Stripped, Back to Basics, and Bionic were all conceptual records where she collaborated with top talent to bring her vision to life. She needs that same level of passion for her future projects.
On the contrary, Accelerate had a lot of potential to become a hit. It was fresh, catchy and current and aged really well. Had Christina put more effort and passion into promoting it it would have become top ten in the least. It needed better video and more exposure but of course as per usual, Xtina decided to abandon it and release a ballad. It’s one of my fav uptempos from her
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:17 pm
by Sapphire
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:31 pm
by jorge.
Pretty Boy wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:06 pm
WAIT A FUCKIN MINUTE. What is this?!?
Out of all the tracks in Mi Reflejo, they go with Una Mujer?
No, gracias.
Re: Christina performing at Hollywood Bowl this summer!
I suppose some of us hoped for a release of the concert itself, which doesn't seem very likely since apparently they were just doing some shots. They said Youtube Originals with certainty, they just couldn't confirm if that was indeed the case.
