[BAN DISCUSSION] Should Gabe. be banned permanently?

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Permanent ban for Gabe.

Poll ended at Sun May 31, 2020 2:30 pm

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 82
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Agugaga wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 10:03 pm
AgentX wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 7:21 pm
Agugaga wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:48 pm I wonder if [mention]jorge.[/mention] will give me and others the same privilege when we are banned, by opening it up to a public option. You’ve really sunk to new lows by doing this and have opened up a can of worms. Everyone is going to be asking for the same treatment.

lmao ...you thinking any votes will be in your favor :lmao:
The rules say “permaban if you troll Xtina twice ” not “permaban if you troll [mention]ziggy[/mention] twice.” So I’m good. :roll:
You don’t troll Xtina? 😂 that’s rich
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If he was never here for X to begin with, be gone with him already. That kind of energy is not needed anywhere. "just here to level up for the other pop girls" :lmao: that's bullshit sis, that's an 'I'm here to mess' gaffette.

Can there be clearer rules on what's considered trolling and what not? It's always a mess whenever two knuckle-heads disagree on their own interpretation of a banable offense.
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AgentX wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 11:02 pm
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lmao ...you thinking any votes will be in your favor :lmao:
The rules say “permaban if you troll Xtina twice ” not “permaban if you troll [mention]ziggy[/mention] twice.” So I’m good. :roll:
You don’t troll Xtina? 😂 that’s rich
No i don't. Been a fan since 1999 sweetie.
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DNNY024 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:49 pm If he was never here for X to begin with, be gone with him already. That kind of energy is not needed anywhere. "just here to level up for the other pop girls" :lmao: that's bullshit sis, that's an 'I'm here to mess' gaffette.

Can there be clearer rules on what's considered trolling and what not? It's always a mess whenever two knuckle-heads disagree on their own interpretation of a banable offense.
Trolling is very much a catch all. I can tell you directly that, much like porn, you’ll know it when you see it. A negative comment about Christina may lead to a report, but most likely no action on my part, depending on the user. Not playing favorites, but there are users who criticize her in a constructive manner, or who do it to point something out, and those might get reported alongside the user who comments negatively about her by bringing up others (Gabe, for example). It’s up to me then to decide if that’s really someone being a troll, trying to get a rise out of people, or just a comment, not meant as anything else than an opinion, which is not a bannable offense. Intent matters. Or as much as I can divine from a users post history.

The clear cut rule is if you’re here spreading hate, you’re out. Unfortunately, we seldom (if ever!) get posts like “xtine is shit”. There’s more nuance and skirting of the topic, where they’ll be open ended about it, and say “well, my fave is doing great. How about yours” with the caveat that, tho you’re here, Christina may not be “your fave”. Having done this for a few years now, I like to think I can tell the difference between those trying to play off a joke versus those who are not obviously interested in X and just here to piss others off.

But again: I can tell you when I see it.
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T!na wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:40 pm i couldn't give a tinkers toss quite frankney :rip: i'll skip this vote if it's all the same 2 U, petals xxx

w/ that having been said, i've noticed him becoming increasinglney supportive of Weekend at Berneys. shall be keeping an eye on him
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The majority has spoken... Let’s be done with it. Shall We?

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I voted No simply because i have never seen him troll Christina, i seen him troll fighters tho which sometimes was very well deserved IMO.
I also didnt follow Gabe much and might have missed him trolling Queen, but the majority has spoken so let it be :manshrug:
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PS: im dying to know who is behind the iconic [mention]T!na[/mention] account. Reveal yourself kween :shook:
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Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
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Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
This thread is about his actions on this forum not other forums! Have you missed his posts actively discouraging/ridiculing Fighters efforts to support Xtina's songs? Then when the song song doesn't do well he comes here daily to rub it in?
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Angelopoulopoulous wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:00 am
Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
This thread is about his actions on this forum not other forums! Have you missed his posts actively discouraging/ridiculing Fighters efforts to support Xtina's songs? Then when the song song doesn't do well he comes here daily to rub it in?
Like I said, I'm not defending him. I'm just saying I don't think he's a troll. I think he just hates y'all. I'm not saying to not permaban him, just showing my perspective.
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Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:16 am
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Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
This thread is about his actions on this forum not other forums! Have you missed his posts actively discouraging/ridiculing Fighters efforts to support Xtina's songs? Then when the song song doesn't do well he comes here daily to rub it in?
Like I said, I'm not defending him. I'm just saying I don't think he's a troll. I think he just hates y'all. I'm not saying to not permaban him, just showing my perspective.
Well, then he shouldn't be coming here.
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His sense of "humor" ir very dark and shady.
I believe his living a miserable life or something

Let's pray for him.
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jorge. wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:10 pm An alternative I can come up with now that things are established properly with different forums, even tho the vote so far is pretty definitive, is create a new user class that isn't allowed access to the Xtina Lounge, only to the OT part of the board.

Would that be acceptable to you all?

These polls would be replaced by "Would you like to deny access to the Christina board to ______" instead of a permanent ban.

Thoughts?
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Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
What matters is his post here which are straight out shady and negative, antagonizing the fanbase is also trolling.
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Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
Sorry but, no one is as dedicated to bringing a female artist down as Gabe or ANOM... They constantly attack other singers, including Christina. And they clearly enjoy it.

I personally think that Gabe is going through a very dark period. I hope he finds peace.
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DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:43 am
Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
Sorry but, no one is as dedicated to bringing a female artist down as Gabe or ANOM... They constantly attack other singers, including Christina. And they clearly enjoy it.

I personally think that Gabe is going through a very dark period. I hope he finds peace.
Keep my name out of your filthy sour mouth. I don’t bring other female artists down. It’s your weird delusional ass that hates on everybody who’s not Christina.

I don’t think Gabe is troll. It’s those annoying members who hate on every female pop start that brings it out of him. He tries to troll them more then he actually is shading Xtina or saying anything nasty about her.

Some light shade and occasional light trolling should be allowed because it brings traffic and discussion and it’s fun. When someone crosses the line, he/she should be banned for some time, but not permanently. (Unless they are obvious 24/7 trolls) .
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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:43 am
Martin wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:17 am Not to defend him, but I'm aware of him from another forum we both frequent and I can tell you that he does not have a negative thing to say about Xtina here. It's all love & praise. I think being on a forum dedicated to only Xtina shows him the ugly side of the fandom that is dedicated to tearing down other female artists and he feels the need to be devil's advocate to provide a level playing field. Only difference is that this is a forum for Xtina, so it doesn't make sense to say anything negative about her to try and defend another artist...
Sorry but, no one is as dedicated to bringing a female artist down as Gabe or ANOM... They constantly attack other singers, including Christina. And they clearly enjoy it.

I personally think that Gabe is going through a very dark period. I hope he finds peace.
Keep my name out of your filthy sour mouth. I don’t bring other female artists down. It’s your weird delusional ass that hates on everybody who’s not Christina.

I don’t think Gabe is troll. It’s those annoying members who hate on every female pop start that brings it out of him. He tries to troll them more then he actually is shading Xtina or saying anything nasty about her.

Some light shade and occasional light trolling should be allowed because it brings traffic and discussion and it’s fun. When someone crosses the line, he/she should be banned for some time, but not permanently. (Unless they are obvious 24/7 trolls) .
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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
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DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 pm
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:43 am

Sorry but, no one is as dedicated to bringing a female artist down as Gabe or ANOM... They constantly attack other singers, including Christina. And they clearly enjoy it.

I personally think that Gabe is going through a very dark period. I hope he finds peace.
Keep my name out of your filthy sour mouth. I don’t bring other female artists down. It’s your weird delusional ass that hates on everybody who’s not Christina.

I don’t think Gabe is troll. It’s those annoying members who hate on every female pop start that brings it out of him. He tries to troll them more then he actually is shading Xtina or saying anything nasty about her.

Some light shade and occasional light trolling should be allowed because it brings traffic and discussion and it’s fun. When someone crosses the line, he/she should be banned for some time, but not permanently. (Unless they are obvious 24/7 trolls) .
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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
Show me the receipts or fuck off.
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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:56 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 pm
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm

Keep my name out of your filthy sour mouth. I don’t bring other female artists down. It’s your weird delusional ass that hates on everybody who’s not Christina.

I don’t think Gabe is troll. It’s those annoying members who hate on every female pop start that brings it out of him. He tries to troll them more then he actually is shading Xtina or saying anything nasty about her.

Some light shade and occasional light trolling should be allowed because it brings traffic and discussion and it’s fun. When someone crosses the line, he/she should be banned for some time, but not permanently. (Unless they are obvious 24/7 trolls) .
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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
Show me the receipts or fuck off.
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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:51 am 4 year old B side! Who else? Only the LEGEND!

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] keeps losing!
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[mention]love&music[/mention] and [mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] are on suicide watch
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LOL @ ANOM trying to act like a victim...

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DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:00 pm
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:56 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 pm

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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
Show me the receipts or fuck off.
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:13 pm #1 song
#1 album

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] [mention]love&music[/mention]

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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:51 am 4 year old B side! Who else? Only the LEGEND!

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] keeps losing!
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 12:30 am
Kitana wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:15 pm 🤭🤭🤭 [mention]ziggy[/mention] [mention]R0K[/mention] [mention]NIGHTMARE©[/mention]

[mention]love&music[/mention] and [mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] are on suicide watch
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Lmao 😆 you can’t be that stupid, right? How is any my posts you just quoted “ANOM attacking female artists”?!
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DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:00 pm
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:56 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 pm

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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
Show me the receipts or fuck off.
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:13 pm #1 song
#1 album

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] [mention]love&music[/mention]

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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:51 am 4 year old B side! Who else? Only the LEGEND!

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] keeps losing!
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 12:30 am
Kitana wrote: Wed May 27, 2020 9:15 pm 🤭🤭🤭 [mention]ziggy[/mention] [mention]R0K[/mention] [mention]NIGHTMARE©[/mention]

[mention]love&music[/mention] and [mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] are on suicide watch
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The way Miss DevotionHurts dug right down in her purse without a moment's hesitation. :rip:

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:fireworks: She is a fat cunt. :fireworks:
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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:01 pm
DevotionHURTS wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:00 pm
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:56 pm

Show me the receipts or fuck off.
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:13 pm #1 song
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[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] [mention]love&music[/mention]

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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:51 am 4 year old B side! Who else? Only the LEGEND!

[mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] keeps losing!
AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 12:30 am

[mention]love&music[/mention] and [mention]DevotionHURTS[/mention] are on suicide watch
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Lmao 😆 you can’t be that stupid, right? How is any my posts you just quoted “ANOM attacking female artists”?!
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AintNoOtherMe! wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:01 pm
Lmao 😆 you can’t be that stupid, right? How is any my posts you just quoted “ANOM attacking female artists”?!
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Dude, you know very well that you constantly attack female singers.

Heck, you tag me almost three times a week to shade Christina or others...
So now you are playing the dumb card, right?

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BaeTine wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:04 pm The way Miss DevotionHurts dug right down in her purse without a moment's hesitation. :rip:

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It wasn't that hard... The only thing I did was open my notifications and voila!
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Gabe is attractive, and thus should not face a permaban.

Thank you,
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I had to look him up through the members list since I'm terrible with names, and had a quick skim through his posts: https://www.aguilera.red/memberlist.php ... ofile&u=57

He comments at one point that Christina should join the Real Housewives franchise. I think that sums up his posting style. Some of the posts are tacky or negative, but he also does show some stanning here and there (mentioning Accelerate as a banger, for instance, based off the two pages I looked through).

I would say give him another chance, and hopefully this event demonstrates clearly: This is a Christina Aguilera Fan Forum. Trolling, insulting, or making snide remarks about her, is not allowed.
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If this forum shows him the ugly side of fandom with barely any posters then I’d hate for him to go to Lipstick Alley with thousands of active posters where fanbases drag everyone from Justin Timberlake to Beyoncé daily. No one is safe. You can’t come to a forum dedicated to Christina Aguilera seeking vigilante justice for other artists while throwing subliminal shade at her or the fanbase. Then he claims he doesn’t want any drama.

It shows he doesn’t have respect for Christina and he seems to be a fair weather fan most of the time anyway. If he wants to be this vigilante then I suggest he only go to forums like Lipstick Alley which is first and foremost a general forum with sub-forums for other artists. I doubt Breathe Heavy tolerates posters subliminally shading Britney or her fanbase in order to uplift other artists. His posts are more divisive than unifying and you can see most of the reactions to his posts are negative for a reason. I don’t think he’s capable of providing a different perspective intelligently without being disrespectful to Christina or the fanbase. Let’s help him spread his good word of keeping balance of fandom and reality elsewhere by giving him read-access only here.
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He is not here for Christina. Period.

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