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dideyers wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:21 am
BaeTine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:10 pm
X101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:06 pm i think we need another live performance
God, I know. Where are you, Tine?!

Are you Lisa D, sis?

I am a flawless stan, so I can see why you'd think so.

Spoiler

X101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:06 pm i think we need another live performance

God, I know.

Where are you, Tine?!

MaCK. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:55 pm
BaeTine wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:51 pm
MaCK. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 pm They need to secure that AMA performance for LBT!
Would prefer Perfection, but I'm a Fighter, so I know to take what the fuck I get.

I want to save Reflection for a big awards show like Grammys or Oscar's next year. I want enough time for Queen to get her throat ready to hit that big note live!

I'm the meantime LBT in full with the more soulful approach from that GMA medley....

My worry is that if she doesn't do a big performance it won't get enough attention to get those big noms next year. To me, an AMA performance is like a down payment on a Grammys or Oscars performance.

MaCK. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:31 pm They need to secure that AMA performance for LBT!

Would prefer Perfection, but I'm a Fighter, so I know to take what the fuck I get.

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:26 pm
BaeTine wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:52 pm
Lament wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 pm "Reflection (2020)" stands at 13,858,742 views on YouTube. It's pretty low compared to the other Disney songs but the fact that it did not get a theatrical release obviously hurt the song. Anyway, it's still steadily growing and it will get another peak every weekend + in December when the movie is available for free on D+!
Honestly, if Tine is feeling so nostalgic and ~supportive~ right now, Disney needs to line up a bunch of younger tricks to cover Reflection. It could be like all the new hoes who grew up on Mulan tributing the song.

Like what's stopping Disney from reaching out to Arabella to make her do something like this? She did BATB for them, so she's in the mix. I know these trashy girls pay her dust on social media, but surely it wouldn't be difficult for the mouse to make a few calls and get some bitches on board.

To me, it would be cute if they could splice together a little montage of all of them singing different parts and then lead up to Tine serving THE NOTE.
Mulan is making its budget back... And not much else.

It is a, very modest, hit. So I honestly doubt that they will put more money into it.

That is, unless Christina pays for it. Which, I honestly doubt she will.

Unfortunately, films in general are NOT making a lot of money.

Oh, I was thinking something like this would be free.

Would Araña actually demand some coinTs to record herself in the bathroom singing along to a karaoke track for three mins? If so, she can keep it.

Lament wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 pm "Reflection (2020)" stands at 13,858,742 views on YouTube. It's pretty low compared to the other Disney songs but the fact that it did not get a theatrical release obviously hurt the song. Anyway, it's still steadily growing and it will get another peak every weekend + in December when the movie is available for free on D+!

Honestly, if Tine is feeling so nostalgic and ~supportive~ right now, Disney needs to line up a bunch of younger tricks to cover Reflection. It could be like all the new hoes who grew up on Mulan tributing the song.

Like what's stopping Disney from reaching out to Arabella to make her do something like this? She did BATB for them, so she's in the mix. I know these trashy girls pay her dust on social media, but surely it wouldn't be difficult for the mouse to make a few calls and get some bitches on board.

To me, it would be cute if they could splice together a little montage of all of them singing different parts and then lead up to Tine serving THE NOTE.

Like I Do wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:17 am Scottish singles chart:

Reflection: 42-47
Loyal True Brave: 61 (new)

Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/s ... les-chart/

Unrelated: the Scottish accent is maybe one of those most hideous sounds on this Earth.

MaCK. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:35 pm
BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:17 pm
AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)

Week 1 - 1,169,387

day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
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SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)

09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
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SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True

Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)

day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________

SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero

Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)

day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams
I was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.

LBT, on the other hand, seems like it's organically gaining interest. Which, frankly, egg on my face, because I never thought it made sense as a standalone piece without the context of the movie.
Yeah I feel LBT is much easier on the ear for casual listeners and it's like the movies theme song whereas Reflection 2020 was more for the fans and nostalgia.

A performance with an orchestra and sang live with the big note could help Reflection surge again. Its LBT that I'm not sure how they could capitalize again beyond it playing in the pre- end credit sequence. (Which was smart).

Yeah, agree that a big performance could make Reflection a phenomenon. I just don't know how Tine pulls that off during rona. Her facemask wouldn't stand a chance against those VOCALS.

AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:43 am SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)

Week 1 - 1,169,387

day 8 - 1,520,195 (+350,808)
day 9 - 1,817,574 (+297,379)
day 10 - 2,092,189 (+274,615)
day 11 - 2,381,466 (+289,277)
day 12 - 2,667,595 (+286,129)
_________________________________

SPOTIFY - Reflection (1998)

09/05 - 23,180,981 (+45,611)
09/06 - 23,231,659 (+50,678)
09/07 - 23,283,008 (+51,349)
09/08 - 23,337,729 (+54,721)
09/09 - 23,390,554 (+52,825)
_________________________________

SPOTIFY - Loyal Brave True

Month 1 - 3,392,016
Month 2 - 6,044,960 (+2,652,944)
Month 3 - 8,157,476 (+2,112,516)
Month 4 - 9,764,587 (+1,607,111)
Month 5 - 11,185,790 (+1,421,203)
Month 6 - 12,796,649 (+1,610,859)
Week 25 - 13,350,283 (+553,634)
Week 26 - 13,995,084 (+644,801)

day 183 - 14,118,593 (+123,509)
day 184 - 14,282,088 (+163,495)
day 185 - 14,468,216 (+186,128)
day 186 - 14,672,600 (+204,384)
day 187 - 14,880,173 (+207,573) *New peak in streams
_________________________________

SPOTIFY - El Mejor Guerrero

Month 1 - 242,496
Month 2 - 362,445 (+119,949)
Month 3 - 459,740 (+97,295)
Month 4 - 539,175 (+79,435)
Month 5 - 611,279 (+72,104)
Month 6 - 713,193 (+101,914)
Week 25 - 767,777 (+54,584)
Week 26 - 828,206 (+60,429)

day 183 - 839,910 (+11,704)
day 184 - 856,546 (+16,636)
day 185 - 873,981 (+17,435)
day 186 - 894,744 (+20,763)
day 187 - 915,918 (+21,174) *New peak in streams

I was a little worried that Reflection would fall off worse than this as the shock factor of her vocal wore off, and as people stopped looking for the video to see the preview scenes because they've already seen the movie (I feel like some of those people were unexpectedly slayed by the vocal and went looking for the song on its own). The fact that it's still stable and declining only slightly makes me think the vocal slay is as much of a moment as we all thought it was, but it's not really obvious how she or Disney could capitalize further on it at this point.

LBT, on the other hand, seems like it's organically gaining interest. Which, frankly, egg on my face, because I never thought it made sense as a standalone piece without the context of the movie.

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:41 am
AS wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:05 am "Loyal Brave True" debuts at #24 in the "Adult Contemporary" chart.

https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary
She should take this into consideration, she could have AC hits, and have a profitable career.

Profit is the one area where Tine has no issues. It's just that the profit generally doesn't come from new music.

Sapphire wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:27 pm
AS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Sapphire wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:21 pm will the labor long weekend help a bit?

Jk, sis, I don't really know. We'll see!
heatwave
I hope many people will stay indoor and stream watch Mulan over the long weekend

Yeah, I've got a lot of my friends on my timeline talking about fuck the heat, we're going to stay in and watch movies with the kids. I don't know if it will be like a Saturday, but I hope it will be better than an ordinary Sunday.

dideyers wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:20 am
rye wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:43 pm
AS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:00 pm SPOTIFY - Reflection (2020)

day 1 - 128,547
day 2 - 291,872 (+163,325)
day 3 - 438,550 (+146,678)
day 4 - 599,824 (+161,274)
day 5 - 777,657 (+177,833) day 6 - 966,356 (+188,699)
day 7 - 1,169,387 (+203,031)
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If 300k is the goal to have a shot at charting, at least it is headed in the right direction. I always forget that the original did not even chart on the Hot 100, so this would be a new milestone for the song if it can get there
300k streams from the US, sis.

So, probably we'd need to see +500k daily (worldwide) to get a shot at Bubbling Under; like FIL that peaked #1 at Bubbling Under

I did not remember that about FIL's performance.

Xtripped wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:39 pm Reflection is lowkey smashing on Asia

Reflection

iTunes:
#3 Singapore
#4 Singapore
#5 Philippines
#6 Indonesia
#6 Thailand
#8 Indonesia
#9 Thailand
#10 Philippines
#23 Malaysia
#28 Malaysia
#51 Taiwan
#90 Taiwan
#133 Vietnam

Apple Music:
#39 Indonesia
#62 Laos
#87 Singapore
#91 Philippines
#105 Thailand

Still #17 on Itunes USA.

Not Taiwan boycotting because the movie is Chinese.

AS wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:10 am
Lament wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:06 am Not bad for day 2. The first day almost had 24 hours, so it must have been very stable or even increasing. What about the original version? If it were to chart, I think both versions’ streams would be combined.

I can’t wait to see the numbers once the movie is released!
The original "Reflection" did 44k streams yesterday.

People are comparing Tine's scalpings.

Hocus Pocus wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:55 pm
UnbreakableF4X wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:46 am LBT and Reflection 2.0 need to penetrate her Top 5 on Spotify to gain exposure.

+11 LBT should climb up after the movie release and Reflection will definitely enter the Top 10 as it was added in various playlists like 'Disney Sing-Alongs' (650k listeners) and New Music Friday.

The shade of putting that vocal masterpiece in a singalong playlist.

How much self esteem will these girls have after trying and failing?

bionicDied4UrSins wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:14 pm
UnbreakableF4X wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:10 pm
UnbreakableF4X wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:09 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if people are checking out the video for the actual vocal slayage in the end -- thats whats really trending.

imagine if it goes viral and becomes a TikTok challenge like the SMHYB riff :mamacita:

I can barely take listening to it GOOD like Tine served it. Can you imagine the screeching cats we would hear if this took off on tictacs?

bionicDied4UrSins wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:02 pm it's actually doing better than the new Calvin Harris song with The Weeknd on Youtube

We got so focused on replay value of videos that we forgot all about replay value of fucking VOCALS.

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:08 pm The issue with the Chinese firewall is related to the unwritten rules of the party. Unlike other countries, China isn't exactly a democracy. There is one party, with some factions.

So government will decide how to interpret rules, depending on what is most convenient to the party.

For example, the CEO of Alibaba got married to the daughter of the current chairman, and is suspected to help them with tech, so he easily became a billionaire and is protected by the government. Those who are not that "lucky" can be censored/killed in no time.

With regards to foreign websites, they are restricted or blocked as they may depict the party in an unfavorable light. Chinese people can access them through VPN services, but if they're caught they can get into trouble.

Thanks, sis, this is helpful. It seems like Mulan tells a China-positive story (based on my very rough memory of the original), and Disney has a good relationship with the party because they recently opened a park there, so maybe that means big potential exposure. I hope so!

DevotionHURTS wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:53 am
XtinaDaily wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:03 am
This is great!

I hope more Chinese people listen to it, and support it.

Are there China-specific streaming platforms that feature Western artists, or are they able to access Spotify / YouTube / whatever? Never understood the whole censorship regime there.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:50 pm If they move the date again it needs to be some time in 2021 to be safe from the next wave of coronavirus.

Sis, we already have bitches acting out because they can't suck Tinder dick on their regular schedule. Lbr, if rona ruins Christmas, none of us will see 2021.

love&music wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:50 pm Many movies are moving again the premiere dates....at this point Disney has to move MULAN for XMAS.

Actually, that would be a slay if it happens. Except for that we'd have to wait even that much longer to hear Godflection 2.0.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:11 am
Luv2LuvUxxx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:24 pm
Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:59 pm 2021 may feel like a long wait but at least the movie will have a chance to reach a wider audience.

Any movie released in the next 6 months will have to deal with the reduced capacity of the venues and from what I see covid is on the increase again on many states.

I messaged AMC cinemas here in the UK to check when they will open and the response I got was that they don't have a date yet. So that's not optimistic.
Well cinemas in the U.K. are in the same position as stage plays/theatres over there. I’m hearing that the West End and other theatre productions won’t happen until next year.

It’s impossible to social distance in cinemas and theatres, even when social distancing is reduced from 2 meter to 1. The same air, close proximity....no one wants to take that risk. It’s sad because live entertainment and going to the movies are what we are ALL used to and enjoy.
I think if social distancing is reduced to 1 metre then it will be doable for cinemas to do some business but we will see.

Anyway, today cinemas reopen in France with a 50% capacity per screen. It will be interesting to see if attendance is good.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/france/ar ... y-20200619

People are definitely going crazy and want to do anything they can to get out of the house, but I honestly feel like they will just go drink and then trick at someone's house off Tinder. I think people have seen more than enough movies on their couches over the past three months, so I just don't see them changing their viewing location from the couch to the theater right away. Normally, theaters are an escape from everyday life when you're busy or you haven't had a chance to sit down with your boo and just chill. People have spent three months trying not to kill their boos and Netflix is the only reason half these bitches remain living. I just don't feel like the GP has that NEED to go there yet.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:59 pm 2021 may feel like a long wait but at least the movie will have a chance to reach a wider audience.

Any movie released in the next 6 months will have to deal with the reduced capacity of the venues and from what I see covid is on the increase again on many states.

I messaged AMC cinemas here in the UK to check when they will open and the response I got was that they don't have a date yet. So that's not optimistic.

I don't know about theaters generally, but there has been all kinds of bankruptcy noise around AMC specifically here in the States. I don't believe it means they will remain closed forever, but I do think it means that particular chain may not have well-defined plans in either direction.

VenusAsABoy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:08 pm
Lament wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:34 am The theaters are reopening already. It's pretty sure the movie will get released in late July in Europe. Life has truly started again here.
In the US most theaters are open again, at least in NY and California. I don't think the movie will get postponed again.
The virus will certainly have hurt the movie's performance but it can still be big and I know Disney won't give up. It cost too much.

The promo (the release of the music videos at least) should start in a couple of weeks!
Even if they open it’s not gonna be the same because of the restrictions and the fear people have of going to crowed places

Stan Queen Moira a bit, sis.

Angelopoulopoulous wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:33 pm The movie is coming out next month but it looks like US cinemas/movie theatres are allowed to only have 25% capacity. Will Disney invest on promo for the movie for such small capacity?

I don't have any idea about the film industry, so let me speak like I'm an expert: at this point, why wouldn't Disney just move to a simulcast on Disney+ as well as one of the networks? They could do it like on a Friday night and make it an event. They're not going to meet expectations at the box office anyway, so this seems like an alternative way to reach the Disney stanbase, attract attention (maybe for awards too), and recoup some of the cost through advertising coins.

X101 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:30 pm
BaeTine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:26 pm
love&music wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:18 pm Steady streams!!!! I want Xtina to sing it at the OSCARS 2021.
I was going to say they'll probably submit Reflection 2.0, but they probably can't because it's an old song, right? But when is the movie even coming out at this point? Do we know?
July 24, 2020

Seems soon, but I guess MulanTine can just use a sword to scalp rona bald if need be.

love&music wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:18 pm Steady streams!!!! I want Xtina to sing it at the OSCARS 2021.

I was going to say they'll probably submit Reflection 2.0, but they probably can't because it's an old song, right? But when is the movie even coming out at this point? Do we know?

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